Curse

IronSheik · Jul 11, 2009, 07:52 PM // 19:52

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Originally Posted by akyros

If we let people have more choice in professions, they might actually try to perma or 600 etc. themselves than hitch and leech

You have 8 character slots with all 3 bases, you have plenty of profession choice, this is about having the tenacity to do everything on one character, being able to do it on everything and counting as a whole certainly makes the title easier.

akyros · Jul 11, 2009, 07:55 PM // 19:55

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

/not signed

It punishes people with duplicate titles on multiple toons. Having the HoM account wide is fair enough as it stands.

Well, if someone wants to have say Sweettooth on both his/her Monk and Mesmer. They'd still have to grind 20,000 points worth of sugar to display on both characters.

Tenebrae · Jul 11, 2009, 08:02 PM // 20:02

/notsigned. Theres no reason to do that . All titles that give something useful are account wide so imho wanting the title to be displayed in all chars just for the sake of it is not needed at all.

[Morkai] · Jul 11, 2009, 08:06 PM // 20:06

tl;dr

It's a bad idea.

Helix Dreadlock · Jul 11, 2009, 08:07 PM // 20:07

/notsigned

it's prestigious (sorta) let it be prestigious

Nodakim · Jul 11, 2009, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by Shadowspawn X

/not signed

It punishes people with duplicate titles on multiple toons. Having the HoM account wide is fair enough as it stands.

You reason is retarded,the duplicate titles wouldnt count towards koabd.

akyros · Jul 11, 2009, 08:16 PM // 20:16

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Originally Posted by IronSheik

You have 8 character slots with all 3 bases, you have plenty of profession choice, this is about having the tenacity to do everything on one character, being able to do it on everything and counting as a whole certainly makes the title easier.

Don't you think being able to do it using your own effort is better than having leeched most of one's maxed titles?

The EotN racial titles are basically ride and leech from runners these days (sadly).

Titles like Vanquishers, Cartographers and Guardians still require (regardless of profession or build) work on the players' part.

Consumable titles (Zrank, sweet, ale, party) still consumes the same amount of gold (assuming they buy zkeys) and have no character/profession restriction with regards to tenacity or difficulty (they can farm with a 600/perma etc. then use gold to feed those titles to their KoaBD character).

Just because it's not 'farmed' (many don't even need to be) using one character, doesn't make it harder or easier but gives you more choices/ chances to try out another profession you might have mastered/favoured more if given more play time with

Nodakim · Jul 11, 2009, 08:20 PM // 20:20

KOABD just makes people play 1 class instead of others,which is why i am not doing it.
I want to play all my "alts" my ranger,ritualist,elementalist,necro etc...
Not just my necro because he already has 10 maxed titles.

akyros · Jul 11, 2009, 08:27 PM // 20:27

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Originally Posted by Tenebrae

/notsigned. Theres no reason to do that . All titles that give something useful are account wide so imho wanting the title to be displayed in all chars just for the sake of it is not needed at all.

My main concern was not because I want to have it displayable on all characters, but to break the limitation of playing one character in PvE all the time due to this title.

Many players end up not playing their other characters of different professions because they want to work on their KoaBD for that char.

Sometimes it ends up with a group/team of too many of the same profession, instead of switching characters some even opt out of play.

arch psyker · Jul 11, 2009, 08:34 PM // 20:34

/notsigned

It's all about prestige and dedication. Honestly I was even against having the HoM account-based too even though a few of my titles benefit from it (wisdom and treasure hunter).

If you want to play your alts play your alts, if you want GWAMM play your main. It's that simple.

akyros · Jul 11, 2009, 08:34 PM // 20:34

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Originally Posted by Helix Dreadlock

/notsigned

it's prestigious (sorta) let it be prestigious

Regardless of how one values it (prestigious or not), it is part PvP (which is acct wide) and a measure of you as a player who has worked to maxed multiple titles, not you as a particular one-profession-pony toon/character

akyros · Jul 11, 2009, 08:46 PM // 20:46

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Originally Posted by arch psyker

/notsigned

It's all about prestige and dedication. Honestly I was even against having the HoM account-based too even though a few of my titles benefit from it (wisdom and treasure hunter).

If you want to play your alts play your alts, if you want GWAMM play your main. It's that simple.

Then you are limiting GWAMM or just KoaBD title earners to a life of 1 profession.

It's a great game with great variety and fun, why end up limiting ourselves just for this virtual prestige (which when converted to GW2 will be account wide benefit anyway).

I just don't wish GW to turn into a one-profession-per-player over a prestige

IronSheik · Jul 11, 2009, 08:48 PM // 20:48

Level 1 GWAMM Ftw, but honestly, it's just rediculous to have titles like this spread across all accounts just because you're forced to play one to get GWAMM, like arch said, you want Koabd, play Main, if you want diversity, play alts. And you aren't forcing them to one profession, do this, get KoaBD on all of your characters.

I have GWAMM on two characters, every other one can go anywhere, I have as much diversity as I want.

akyros · Jul 11, 2009, 08:49 PM // 20:49

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Originally Posted by [Morkai]

tl;dr

It's a bad idea.

Why and how?

Marverick · Jul 11, 2009, 08:59 PM // 20:59

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Originally Posted by akyros

Then you are limiting GWAMM or just KoaBD title earners to a life of 1 profession.

It's a great game with great variety and fun, why end up limiting ourselves just for this virtual prestige (which when converted to GW2 will be account wide benefit anyway).

I just don't wish GW to turn into a one-profession-per-player over a prestige

/signed this

I highly doubt it was the original intention of the game to have players play through everything with just one character. Variety was a large part of the game, at least earlier.
All titles should be account-wide. Guardian/vanquisher/etc.

If people want

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prestige

for doing everything on one character, then perhaps some sort of special character displayed on the title would be appropriate for the character that earned that title.

And seriously, who the hell gets GWAMM on more than one character? I don't think there's enough of those people to warrant consideration. And even if there are, those people should seriously just turn off their computer and enjoy life.

Need More Donuts · Jul 11, 2009, 09:00 PM // 21:00

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Originally Posted by mastar of warrior

/Notsigned...
Its not supposed to be a title thats easy to get.
its not supposed to be fast or easy.
its supposed to be a Challenge,if that means grind, so be it.
If you feel like being Lazy, Simply dont do it.
But for Heavens sake, DONT MAKE KIND OF A BIG DEAL ACCOUNT WIDE

Anything worth doing is not easy, make it easy and there's no point no fun...
/notsigned

IronSheik · Jul 11, 2009, 09:02 PM // 21:02

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Originally Posted by Marverick

And seriously, who the hell gets GWAMM on more than one character? I don't think there's enough of those people to warrant consideration. And even if there are, those people should seriously just turn off their computer and enjoy life.

I have 3000 hours over 4 years, and have two gwamms, Not only do I know more people with more than that in 2 years, but people with 4 times as much.

You may as well be talking to yourself saying that, stop posting here and enjoy life, they can enjoy it on GW, amirite.

arch psyker · Jul 11, 2009, 09:09 PM // 21:09

I have all the diversity I need. I have 10 characters, one for each class in the game. A majority of my characters have most of every campaign open and most their profession skills unlocked. If I get tired of my GWAMM character I switch to another character.

So I don't see how choosing to go for GWAMM limits a person to playing on one character.

Ultimately it only helps the casual player achieve what a person who devotes time into one character achieve. To my knowledge the original design was to have people who could casually play the game and be equal to people who play the game hardcore.

Also it's not the intention of the developers to have a player play one character, it's the nature of MMO's. You grow attached to a character, this is your virtual self. It has been that way since Everquest in late 90's and exist in every MMO since.

There are the few exceptions of players who play multiple characters on a regular basis and the rare exception in GW that players have multiple character with GWAMM.

GWAMM is a hardcore player title and I personally believe it should stay that way.

mastar of warrior · Jul 11, 2009, 09:13 PM // 21:13

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Originally Posted by akyros

Yes, normally most have one favourite. However, that doesn't you should be limited to play only one.

You're not. There are several account wide titles.

Darth The Xx · Jul 11, 2009, 09:17 PM // 21:17

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Originally Posted by akyros

Why make Kind of a Big Deal (KoaBD) - Maxed titles rank account wide?

Reasons:
1. This title is neither an exclusively PvE or PvP title, it combines/tallies both (PvE + PvP) and thus reflects the acheivement of a player instead of a character (PvP titles might not have been earned by that character displaying his/her KoaBD).

Lol NOT exclusively PvE? Name ONE PvP title that is feasible to max. (Lux/Kurz ones don't count as they can be done insanely fast now in PvE)